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The British Invasion: November 14th, 1964

February 7, 2012
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Who Knows – the “You Know Who”?

British Invasion Debuts - November 14th, 1964

November 14th of 1964 ushered in three strong debut songs from the Invaders including Chad & Jeremy’s third chart single “Willow Weep for Me”, Dave Clark’s “Anyway You Want It” (their 9th hit during 1964), and Manfred Mann with “Sha La La” – hot on the heels of their chart topping “Do Wah Diddy Diddy”, their second chart record.

The "You Know Who Group" (Undertakers Maybe?)

The You Know Who Group were another British Invasion ploy with an apparent twist: Radio station WFMU relates a curious tale of this seemingly concocted studio group actually being the Mersey side “Undertakers” who re-established themselves in the U.S. and recorded for a brief time as “The You Know Who Group”.  There is much disagreement about this – but I located this Post by Bob Eder of “All Music Guide” which seems to put any doubt to rest.

And the liner notes on their sole U.S. long play release made a single reference to a possible Invasion connection: “The Boys with That Great New English Sound” (released on International records).  Their single “Roses Are Red My Love” was released on the affiliated 4 Corners label.  WFMU states that they came to the U.S. in 1965 but this single appeared in November of 64.  Pete Frame in his family tree series “The Beatles & Some Other Guys” tracks the Undertakers history but makes no mention of them becoming the “You Know Who Group” and in fact does reference a 1964 New York trip where they briefly performed (as the Undertakers) and then broke up for good.  I have compared Undertaker photos with the You Know Who Group LP Cover and there certainly could be a member or two in both photos.

You Know the Undertakers??

The original Undertakers formed around 1961 and originally included Bob Evans on drums, Jimmy McManus doing vocals, Les McGuire on Sax (later with Gerry & the Pacemakers), Chris Huton & Geoff Newton on guitars, and Mushy Cooper on bass (he would to onto Faron’s Flamingos and the Lee Curtis All Stars).  A later line-up would briefly include Apple Record’s Jackie Lomax who started out with Dee & the Dynamites in the early 60’s.

British Invasion on the U.S. Billboard Charts – November 14th, 1964

(Visit Joel Whitburn’s Record Research website presenting Billboard Charts)

Top Invaders:

(Number 1 – Baby Love by the Supremes – 4th Week)
Number 5 – Honeycombs – Have I the Right
Number 7 – Manfred Mann – Do Wah Diddy Diddy
Number 9 – Zombies – She’s Not There

Debuts:

You Know Who Group – Roses Are Red My Love – #126 – Peaks at #43
Chad & Jeremy – Willow Weep For Me – #94 – Peaks at #15
Dave Clark Five – Anyway You Want It – #78 – Peaks at #14
Manfred Mann – Sha La La – #71 – Peaks at #12

Gale Garnett – We’ll Sing in the Sunshine – #12
Terry Black (Canada) – Unless You Care #103
Chad & Jeremy – A Summer Song – #32
Searchers – When You Walk Into the Room – #37
Rolling Stones – Time is On My Side – #18
Herman’s Hermits – I’m into Something Good – #28
Dave Clark Five – Everybody Knows – #23
Peter and Gordon – I Don’t Want to See You Again – #24
Gerry & Pacemakers – I Like It – #26
Kinks – You Really Got Me – #13
Animals – I’m Crying – #27
Nashville Teens – Tobacco Road – #15

One Comment

  1. Well – we found a source that states that the Undertakers actually did work in 1964 in New York – with – Bob Gallo! – the producer of the “You Know Who Group” – The source is Bruce Eder on “:KNIGE” Blog and his entire story tying these two groups together can be read at http://music.kngine.com/artist.ashx?id=AA:1147140&tab=Bio

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