Who Knows – the “You Know Who”?
November 14th of 1964 ushered in three strong debut songs from the Invaders including Chad & Jeremy’s third chart single “Willow Weep for Me”, Dave Clark’s “Anyway You Want It” (their 9th hit during 1964), and Manfred Mann with “Sha La La” – hot on the heels of their chart topping “Do Wah Diddy Diddy”, their second chart record.
The You Know Who Group were another British Invasion ploy with an apparent twist: Radio station WFMU relates a curious tale of this seemingly concocted studio group actually being the Mersey side “Undertakers” who re-established themselves in the U.S. and recorded for a brief time as “The You Know Who Group”. There is much disagreement about this – but I located this Post by Bob Eder of “All Music Guide” which seems to put any doubt to rest.
And the liner notes on their sole U.S. long play release made a single reference to a possible Invasion connection: “The Boys with That Great New English Sound” (released on International records). Their single “Roses Are Red My Love” was released on the affiliated 4 Corners label. WFMU states that they came to the U.S. in 1965 but this single appeared in November of 64. Pete Frame in his family tree series “The Beatles & Some Other Guys” tracks the Undertakers history but makes no mention of them becoming the “You Know Who Group” and in fact does reference a 1964 New York trip where they briefly performed (as the Undertakers) and then broke up for good. I have compared Undertaker photos with the You Know Who Group LP Cover and there certainly could be a member or two in both photos.
The original Undertakers formed around 1961 and originally included Bob Evans on drums, Jimmy McManus doing vocals, Les McGuire on Sax (later with Gerry & the Pacemakers), Chris Huton & Geoff Newton on guitars, and Mushy Cooper on bass (he would to onto Faron’s Flamingos and the Lee Curtis All Stars). A later line-up would briefly include Apple Record’s Jackie Lomax who started out with Dee & the Dynamites in the early 60’s.
British Invasion on the U.S. Billboard Charts – November 14th, 1964
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(Number 1 – Baby Love by the Supremes – 4th Week)
Number 5 – Honeycombs – Have I the Right
Number 7 – Manfred Mann – Do Wah Diddy Diddy
Number 9 – Zombies – She’s Not There
You Know Who Group – Roses Are Red My Love – #126 – Peaks at #43
Chad & Jeremy – Willow Weep For Me – #94 – Peaks at #15
Dave Clark Five – Anyway You Want It – #78 – Peaks at #14
Manfred Mann – Sha La La – #71 – Peaks at #12
Gale Garnett – We’ll Sing in the Sunshine – #12
Terry Black (Canada) – Unless You Care #103
Chad & Jeremy – A Summer Song – #32
Searchers – When You Walk Into the Room – #37
Rolling Stones – Time is On My Side – #18
Herman’s Hermits – I’m into Something Good – #28
Dave Clark Five – Everybody Knows – #23
Peter and Gordon – I Don’t Want to See You Again – #24
Gerry & Pacemakers – I Like It – #26
Kinks – You Really Got Me – #13
Animals – I’m Crying – #27
Nashville Teens – Tobacco Road – #15