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The Songs of John Carter and Tim Gilbert

May 21, 2016
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Young Colorado Composing Duo Hit the Big Time

Tim Gilbert and John Carter were fellow students from Denver South and then the University of Colorado. Tim Gilbert was a member of Colorado’s Rainy Daze.  The group formed in 1963 and became a regular act at Denver’s 3.2 nightclub located on West Alameda, “The Galaxy”.

Nearly all of the Gilbert and Carter collaborations were produced by Frank Slay, who earlier had produced and recorded for Dick Clark’s Swan Record Label. He moved west settling in California. Slay would visit the Mile High City to observe annual “Battle of the Bands” competition, which resulted in signing many acts to his Chicory Label.  From Chicory it was onto the national Uni record label, and with that distribution, “That Acapulco Gold” would climb to number 70 on the Hot 100.  That song’s rise to a higher position was thwarted by warnings from L.A. DJ’s who cautioned radio stations about taking a chance with authorities if electing to play the record.

Slay next sent Carter a melody which needed lyrics – and with assistance from Tim Gilbert – they hit the big time with “Incense and Peppermints” which hit the top spot in the nation for 1 week – November 25th, 1967.  Their relationship with Slay would result in the partnership on most of the tracks listed below.  Gilbert enjoyed a lengthy career in Hollywood working for Capitol Records in a A&R capacity.

45 – Chicory CH-404 – “That Acapulco Gold b/w “In My Mind Lives A Forest” – December, 1966

GILBERT AND CARTER 18 A GILBERT AND CARTER 18 B GILBERT AND CARTER 18 C

45 – Uni 55002 – “That Acapulco Gold” b/w “In My Mind Lives a Forest” – January, 1967

GILBERT AND CARTER 17 CGILBERT AND CARTER 17 A GILBERT AND CARTER 17 B

45 – All-American – “Incense and Peppermints” b/w “The Birdman of Alcatrash (B side by others), April, 1967 (The Strawberry Alarm Clock)

STRAWBERRY ALARM CLOCK 45 american 1967

45 – Uni 55018 – “Incense and Peppermints” b/w “The Birdman of Alcatrash” (B side by others) – May, 1967 (The Strawberry Alarm Clock)

GILBERT AND CARTER 16 A

45 – Uni 55045 – “If We Stick Together” b/w “Early October” – December, 1967 – (Tim Gilbert)

GILBERT AND CARTER 02 A GILBERT AND CARTER 02 B

45 – Chicory CH 407 – “On the Other Side of Happiness” b/w “The Spider and the Flie” (B side composed by others – A side by John Carter with Jon Floth) – April, 1967 (The Monocles)

GILBERT AND CARTER 15 A

45 – Uni 55011 – “Good Morning, Mr. Smith” b/w “Discount City” (B side by others) – April, 1967 (The Rainy Daze)

GILBERT AND CARTER 12 A

45 – Chicory CH-403 – “Crazy Bicycle” b/w “The Diamond Mine” (B side composed by Colorado’s Dave Diamond) – June, 1967 (The Higher Elevation)

GILBERT AND CARTER 09 A GILBERT AND CARTER 09 B

45 – Uni 550256 – “Fe Fi Fo Fum” b/w “Stop Sign” – July, 1967 (The Rainy Daze)

GILBERT AND CARTER 13 A GILBERT AND CARTER 13 BGILBERT AND CARTER 19 A

45 – Uni 55026 – “Blood of Oblivion” b/w “Stop Sign”

“Blood of Oblivion” is the alternate title for “Fe Fi Fo Fum” – The KIMN survey below lists the song as “Blood of Oblivion” at the number 50 spot (click to enlarge and view listing).

RAINY DAZE 55026 A1 RAINY DAZE 55026 A2

RAINY DAZE 55026 A3 RAINY DAZE 55026 A4

KIMN_1967-07-22_1

45 – Liberty 56035 – “Country Club Affair” b/w “Summer Skies” – April, 1968 (Higher Elevation)

GILBERT AND CARTER 10 A GILBERT AND CARTER 10 B

45 – Dot 45-17123 – “Sanctuary” b/w “City Sidewalks” – July, 1968 (Yankee Dollar)

GILBERT AND CARTER 14 B GILBERT AND CARTER 14 A GILBERT AND CARTER 04 A

45 – Capitol 2230 – “City Sidewalks” b/w “Not So Hard” (B side by others) – July, 1968 (Hardwater)

GILBERT AND CARTER 05 A

45 – White Whale WW 279 – “Make Me Laugh” b/w “My Door is Always Open” – September, 1968

GILBERT AND CARTER 20 A GILBERT AND CARTER 20 B

GILBERT AND CARTER 20 C GILBERT AND CARTER 20 D

45 – White Whale – “Class of ’69” b/w “Country Boy” – April, 1969 (Horses)

GILBERT AND CARTER 06 A

45 – Uni 55297 – “Sapphire” b/w “Shoes” (B side by others) – August, 1971 (Sapphire)

GILBERT AND CARTER 07 A

45 – Crested Butte CBR 1203 – “Union Man” – 1973 (Mick Emeson)

GILBERT AND CARTER 08 A

LP – Uni 73014 – “Incense and Peppermints” – Only the title song on this LP was composed by Gilbert and Carter

STRAWBERRY ALARM CLOCK LP 01 STRAWBERRY ALARM CLOCK LP 02

STRAWBERRY ALARM CLOCK LP 03 STRAWBERRY ALARM CLOCK LP 04

2 Comments

  1. Well, this certainly adds to my want list! The Rainy Daze has been a favorite band since my sister and I tried to load the KIMN request line with calls to play “In My Mind Lives A Forest”, which we liked better than :Acapulco Gold”. And, much as I like “If We Stick Together”, for me the better side is the flipside “Early October”. By the way, my copy of Uni 55026 has the A side title as “Blood Of Oblivion”, the title under which it appeared (briefly!) on the KIMN charts.

    • Thanks for pointing out the alternate title which was how it initially was being listed later being replaced by just “Fe Fi Fo Fum” – I added the earlier listing images to the Carter and Gilbert Post

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